MASS GRAVE STORY EXPLAINED OR ARE THEY EXPLAINED?

A friend of mine, an editor from Oklahoma sent me a copy of the following article he wrote regarding an article I forwarded to him. Below, you will find the original article I sent him, his article and my response to his article. First, the original article. This article is about the Houston mass graves but there have been reports of mass graves in Phoenix and by Chicago. I disagree those plastic boxes are 'coffin liners'. My gut feeling tells me they're utilitarian.

http://www.infowars.com/more-mass-graves-houston-expands-cemetery/

More Mass Graves? Houston Expands Cemetery

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 28, 2009

An Infowars reader has sent photographs of an expansion underway at the Houston National Cemetery in Texas administered by the VA. “Could this be related to what is going on in Phoenix? I noticed both the concrete structures that go in the ground as well as some plastic coffin liners. Could it be a regular expansion of the cemetery? It seems to be an operation of a smaller scale than what is going on in Phoenix, or perhaps I am late and many of the concrete structures are already in the ground and covered up,” the reader writes in an email sent with photo attachments.

On March 25, Infowars posted a report filed by Shepard Ambellas on an apparent mass grave site under construction at the National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, Arizona.

It has yet to be established what these grave sites are for, although an official contacted at the Phoenix cemetery told Jason Douglas, producer of Jason Bermas’ Infowarrior radio show on GCN, that the practice of digging multiple graves with large crypts was commonplace.

http://www.reddirtreport.com/news.php?id=10153#comments
RDR UPDATE: MASS GRAVE STORY EXPLAINED

By Andrew W. Griffin - March 27, 2009 1:15 PM
Red Dirt Report, editor

Posted: March 27, 2009

OKLAHOMA CITY – Following concerns over a perceived plan for the digging of mass graves at the National Memorial Cemetery in Phoenix, Ariz., Red Dirt Report made some calls Friday morning and was able to learn what was really going on.

After talking to a woman named “Gail” at the Fort Sill National Cemetery here in Oklahoma, and getting nowhere, a call was made to Trisha Blocker at the Memorial Support Network in Denver. Blocker directed this reporter to talk to the Arizona director of the VA cemetery there.

Director Wayne Ellis, who oversees this “usually quiet” U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Cemetery told Red Dirt Report that he has been engaged in “heated” conversations with people calling his office, claiming that the government was up to something nefarious.

“One was convinced we’re digging them for all the Mexicans coming over the border or preparing for the bird flu or a pandemic,” Ellis said. “That is not the case.”

Some got that impression following a report written by Shepard Ambellas at Infowars.com, titled “Military Industrial Complex prepares mass graves for U.S. citizens,” that the mass grave digging and earth moving at the cemetery was unusual and alarming.

But a simple call to Ellis cleared up the misunderstanding.

“This is the way cemeteries do business these days,” Ellis said. “Rather than digging graves one-by-one we pre-place them in advance.”

The way Ellis explained it, the VA provides the cemeteries with money to cover the digging of the graves for up to five years in the future.

To make the most of the space available at the cemetery, he said, these ‘in-ground mausoleum’-type graves will allow for the burial of bodies that will only be an inch or so apart, rather than a foot or so.

“That way they don’t have to come back each year and dig them,” Ellis said, noting that they are preparing 7,600 gravesites at the Phoenix cemetery.

“People ask ‘why so many?’ To give you an example, last year we had 3,140 people buried at this cemetery last year,” Ellis said.

In fact, Ellis said that when he was director of the state VA cemetery in New Jersey, he used the same mass digging techniques.

Ellis then directed this reporter and readers of this story to go to www.precast.org which is the National Precast Concrete Association in Indianapolis.

Talking to Ron Hyink, the managing editor of Precast Inc. magazine, he said he believes a member company of their trade association was involved with the Phoenix project but was unable to find the specific name.

Back in Phoenix, Ellis said he has fielded many calls about the Infowars story.

“I tell them that there’s nothing subversive going on,” Ellis said.

Copyright 2009 West Marie Media

Now, this is my comment posted to the article above:

It's called 'plausible denial' and a host of other things when the government (or another body of power) is doing, planning or expecting something ugly or forbidden or both. Of course all this is going to be denied! But, if you look at this logically, what they're saying and what they're doing doesn't match up.

Why all the massive grave digging at one time? It's going on outside Chicago, Phoenix and now Houston (and probably more places that haven't been discovered yet). Why the plastic coffins and crypts? Is that the 'new' way people are going to be buried now? Some may want to argue that because of the economy that people will be too poor to buy regular coffins. I was poor all my life and when someone died in our group, people were always finding a way to buy a decent casket. Everyone would pool their funds, go to churches for help, access government funds for pauper's burials, pawn their belongings and more so the dead person could go to the Afterlife in a decent casket. I've seen poor parents sell it all, pawn it all to give their children a decent coffin and funeral. I told one guy, "You've put yourself in debt for ten years for this funeral" and he looked at me and told he would have sold his Soul if he had to have sold it so he could have that funeral for his son. I looked at him with ?Question looks in my Eyes????? And he told me he was serious.

Now plastic coffins? They only use those in cases of mass death including epidemics! No matter how broke-down poor people are, they will find a way to buy regular coffins.

If I remember right (and I have a fairly good memory for this kind of stuff because I'm an Anarchist), plastic coffins are mentioned in FEMA documents. And we all know what FEMA is all about. Those are the government folks who've got their 'camps' (concentration camps) set up all over the country, empty but guarded by Wackenhut and other guards. FEMA is also those government folks who let countless suffer and die from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. Oh hey, FEMA put survivors of Katrina in those trailers full of toxic gases including formaldehyde which has either killed several people and/or has shortened their lives with the lung diseases they caused.

As for the concentration camps, well they're all secretive. If they had nothing to hide, they'd invite the press in for a looksy. The press gets into prisons and jails. Why can't they get into those camps? Why don't politicians explain them to the people?

*Think People, Think*!!! It looks wrong and it feels wrong. All those mass graves dug at once across the country? Anarchists, patriots and the rest will always notice something like this and will SAY something! It never happened before, WHY IS IT HAPPENING NOW AND HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY? Oh some 'funeral association' might want to say it's their new 'business model' but they've changed their 'business model' NOW?

The cheap plastic coffins and crypts?

Remember, we were told that two airplanes brought the World Trade Center down (plus Seven World Trade Center that wasn't hit by an airplane) plus it was 'natural' for the buildings to fall the way they did when only controlled demolition could make those buildings fall the way they did. I questioned 9/11 right from the start! My first clue was the way the buildings imploded! There was a natural gas explosion in my old city and a friend of mine died in it. He was a old man I used to give rides to. Met him when I was driving taxi and the friendship continued after I quit that job.

Some bozos from the natural gas company were working on a gas line downtown and they hit a gas line and it went !!!KABOOM!!! The explosion went out, blowing up some buildings (one where my friend had an apartment above a shop - he was blown to bits). The debris went out. Some poor woman who worked at the post office was walking into Taco John's to get some lunch and a brick hit her in the head and killed her. Taco John's was about 2 blocks from 'ground zero'. The World Trade Center and it's sister building should have blown out, not in.

So WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT THESE MASS GRAVES? It's a good thing I'm not in America because I'd be at that Houston one with a shovel, trying to fill it back in and thus, I'd probably be in jail unless there were many others like me with shovels (and rakes and bags of soil) as well! That's WHAT I'D DO. I'd also keep this information viral because if it goes away and it is conspiracy against the American people, the murderers will get away with it!

Again, *THINK FOR YOURSELF*!!! What is your gut feeling about this? Mine tells me it is evil! Do you know that the secret serpent puppet masters want 80% of the population gone now that the world has been mapped, technology has been advanced and the infrastructure has been built? *LOOK IT UP* It's all over the internet in political documents of the elite!

The mass graves and plastic coffins would more easily be explained by the depopulation dreams of the rulers than the 'business as usual' explanation!

Of course no one in power is going to say that the mass graves and plastic coffins are for mass deaths because there are some people who are not going to go quietly into the night! They're gonna fight. They're not going to die for some Illuminati bullshit without resisting (and that's what people should do).

NO, this is no 'urban legend' and more, Alex Jones makes sure he has the facts because he's got 'critics' all over his back. I don't always agree with him, especially when he took a bully pulpit against the Zeitgeist creator (and I don't agree with Zeitgeist in many places). I think Alex Jones at infowars.com (and prisonplanet.com) tells the Truth and he and his staff go out of their way to make sure it's all True.

I thought on this response all night. Of course all the mass graves could easily be 'explained' by representatives of institutions/buinesses/so forth but the other facts contradict the explanation plus if you research for yourself, there is a secret depopulation program going on. I've been studying this stuff for years and have written about it. See 'The Nine Stages of Autogenocide' at http://martharosecrow.blogspot.com/2009/01/nine-stages-of-american-autogenocide.html

Or see 'Baby Boomer Die Off: There Will Be No Social Security Crisis' at http://martharosecrow.blogspot.com/2009/01/baby-boomer-die-off-there-will-be-no.html

In the above article, I PROVE that people are dying off in droves but it's all being covered up. Almost every 'Baby Boomer' will be dead by 2025 and they're not dying naturally! I research this stuff because I follow my intellect and because my gut feeling/Intuition tells me something is wrong or doesn't make sense.

As for the mass graves and the cheap plastic caskets and crypts, my logical thinking and Spiritual Intuition shows me darkness and evil plus tells me, "Something Wicked This Way Comes..."